Nu stiu daca va intereseaza si alte colturi de lume :) cu ingaduinta voastra pot derula intreaga poveste.
On road from Phnom Penh to Kep
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Da da, orice fel de colt de lume e foarte bun. :) Eu sigur voi urmari, n-am iesit pana acum din Europa, urmeaza. :D
O zi normala de iarna, de Decembrie ,aeroportul din Frankfurt pare destul de inchis la culoare sa nu vorbesc de labirintul de acolo si de incompetenta tot mai acuta a celor care lucreaza acolo(cu siguranta Leiharbeiter).Aeronava(Boeing 777)este gata de plecare destinatia Bangkok.
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Dupa aprox.11 ore de zbor aterizam pe Suvarnabhumi Airport in Bankok.Aeroportul este nou construit super modern iar arhitectura impunatoare le face in ciuda celor din Frankfurt.
Multumiri celor de la Thai Airways pentru serviciul impecabil!
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Suntem doar in zona de tranzit si asteptam urmatorul zbor spre Siem Reap cu Bangkok Air
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Dupa un zbor de aprox. 40 min si un super board service(nemaintalnit niciodata pe o asemnea distanta)aterizam pe micutul dar cochetul aeroprt Siem Reap-Angkor International Airport.
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Aici totul pare sa fie bine organizat iar formalitatile pt.viza de intrare depaste orice record.
Daca ar fi sa acord o nota celor de la Thai,Bangkok-air as acorda nota maxima cu felicitari
Superb acel jumbo jet... oh bestial arata! :D
Superbe pozele
Continuarea pls :D .....F5 F5 F5
Dupa formalitatile de rigoare suntem preluati de Mr.Lao (best driver in town) care ne conduce spre cartierul general.
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Primele imagini din Siem Reap
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Airport Road 6, drumul ce leaga aeroportul de oras (ca. 7Km) este unul nou, presarat pe ambele parti cu noi hoteluri iar ca vedere arata destul de bine.
Iata-ne ajunsi pe strada cu resedinta noastra Bayon Garden-Guesthouse (Wat Damnak Village, Siem Reap).Desi strada arata mai prafuita are totusi acel minunat fler al locurilor si nu suntem departe de Old market.
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Super funky. :D
Mai vrem poze! :)
Cred ca am omis ceva, un scurt prolog despre Cambogia(cred ca am scris corect in romana).
Cambogia este asezata in SE Asiei si are ca vecini:Thailanda.Laos si Vietnam,in sud are iesire la mare mai precis in Gulf of Thailand,este impartita in mai multe provincii iar principalele orase sunt Phnom Penh - capitala,Siem Reap - orasul templelor,Battambang,Sihanoukville,Kep.
Istoria Cambogiei nu incepe cu cea a Khmerilor rosii ci undeva departe in timp.Tara a fost macinata de multe razboaie timp de aproape 30 de ani,fosta colonie franceza pana in 1953.
Cel mai singeros regim insa a fost cel al lui Pol Pot,(Khmer Rouge),1975-79 care a distrus tara pe toate liniile pana adanc in temelii.In decembrie 78 trupele vietnameze au inceput marsul de eliberare iar in ianuarie 79 au eliberat capitala Phnom Penh, khmerii rosii s-au retras in nord-vest unde au inceput un razboi de guerilla care a mai durat insa cativa ani.
In 1976 regele Sihanouk a fost silit sa abdice.Trataul de pace sub egida ONU este semnat in 1991.Norodom Sihamoni este regele actual al Cambogiei functia sa fiind insa una doar simbolica.
Istoria Cambogiei a fost una foarte zbuciumata si iti vine greu sa crezi ca dupa ce populatia a fost decimata,au totusi puterea sa se ridice din nou, incet dar sigur si asta datorita templelor ridicate in urma cu sute de ani de catre Khmer Empire.
P.S.Daca aveti intrebari va raspund cu placere.
Siem Reap este poarta de intrare spre Angkor Archaeological Park la 3 km nord de oras.Ca sa poti vizita Temples of Angkor ai nevoie de un pass care arata ca o legitimatie avind chiar o poza facuta pe loc la casele de bilete.Preturile sunt urmatoarele: pt. o zi 20$ trei zile 40$ sau o saptamana 60$.Mai jos templele care sunt grupate in cateva tururi bine definite.
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Ak Yum AAP - Near the West Baray 8th-11th century AD --- ---
Angkor Thom AAP 12th-13th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Angkor Wat AAP - 6km north of Siem Reap Town. Early-Mid 12th century AD Suryavarman II Angkor Wat
Bakong AAP - Roluos Group Early 9th century AD Indravarman Preah Ko
Baksei Chamkrong AAP/PC - Near the South Gate of Angkor Thom Mid 10th century AD Harshavarman Bakheng
Banteay Kdei AAP/GC Late 12th - Early 13th century AD Jayavarman VII Angkor Wat/ Bayon
Banteay Prei AAP/GC Late 12th - Early 13th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Banteay Samre AAP - 4km east of East Mebon Mid 12th century AD Suryavarman II Angkor Wat
Banteay Srey 37km north of Siem Reap Town Late 10th century AD Rajendravarman Banteay Srey
Baphuon AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Mid 11th century AD Udayadityavarman II Baphuon
Bat Chum AAP/PC Mid 10th century AD Rajendravarman Pre Rup
Bayon AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Beng Melea Early 11th century AD Suryavarman II Angkor Wat
Chapel of the Hospital AAP/PC Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Chau Say Tevoda AAP/PC Early 12th century AD Suryavarman II Angkor Wat
East Mebon AAP/GC Late 10th century AD Rajendravarman II Pre Rup
Kbal Spean 49km north of Siem Reap Town 11th - 13th century AD
Kleangs (North and South) AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Late 10th - Early 11th century AD Jayavarman V Khleang
Krol Ko AAP/GC Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Krol Romeas AAP/GC
Kutisvara AAP/GC 9th / 10th century AD Jayavarman II Preah Ko
Lolei AAP - Roluos Group Late 9th century AD Yasovarman I Pre Rup/Bakheng
Neak Pean AAP/GC Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Phimeanakas AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Late 10th - Early 11th century AD Jayavarman V Khleang
Phnom Bakheng AAP/PC - Near the South Gate of Angkor Thom Late 9th - Early 10th century AD Yasovarman I Bakheng
Phnom Krom 15km south of Siem Reap Town, near the Chong Khneas Port Late 9th - Early 10th century AD Yasovarman I Bakheng
Phnom Kulen 50km north of Siem Reap Town 9th century AD Jayavarman II Kulen
Prasat Bei AAP/PC - Near the South Gate of Angkor Thom 10th century AD Yasovarman I Bakheng
Prasat Kravan AAP/PC Early 10th century AD Harshavarman I Pre Rup
Prasat Prei AAP/GC Late 12th - Early 13th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Prasat Suor Prat AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Early 13th? century AD Indravarman II Post-Bayon
Prasat Top (East) Angkor Thom Late 13th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Prasat Top (West) Angkor Thom 9th-17th century AD Post-Bayon
Pre Rup AAP/GC Late 10th century AD Rajendravarman II Pre Rup
Preah Khan AAP/GC Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Preah Ko AAP - Roluos Group Late 9th century AD Indravarman I Preah Ko
Preah Palilay AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Late 12th - Early 13th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Preah Pithu Group AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Early 12th century AD Suryavarman II
Roluos Group AAP - Roluos Group Late 9th century AD
Spean Thma AAP/PC
Srah Srang AAP/PC Mid 10th and Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Ta Keo AAP/PC Late 10th - Early 11th century AD Jayavarman V Khleang
Ta Nei AAP Mid 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Ta Prohm AAP/PC Mid 12th - Early 13th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Ta Prohm Kel AAP/PC - Opposite Angkor Wat Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Ta Som AAP/GC Late 12th century AD century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Tep Pranam AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom 9th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Terrace of the Elephants AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Terrace of the Leper King AAP/PC - Central Angkor Thom Late 12th century AD Jayavarman VII Bayon
Thma Bay Kaek AAP/PC Late 11th / early 12th century AD Suryavarman II Angkor Wat
Thommanon AAP/PC Late 11th - Early 12th century AD Suryavarman II Angkor Wat
Wat Athvea 8km south of Siem Reap Town. Late 11th century AD Suryavarman II Angkor Wat
West Mebon AAP - On an island in the center of the West Baray Late 11th century AD Udayadityavarman VII Baphuon
Quote from: Henning on December 09, 2012, 03:15:40 PM
Nu stiu daca va intereseaza si alte colturi de lume :) cu ingaduinta voastra pot derula intreaga poveste.
On road from Phnom Penh to Kep
Felicitari pentru ca ai ales o destinatie putin mai..."diferita" , daca imi permiti sa ma exprim asa. Sunt ochi si urechi la urmatoarele postari. Admir persoanele care fac sau macar incearca sa faca ceva mai... "diferit" . Si spun asta ca nu am auzit/vazut prea multe persoane sa aleaga o destinatie precum Cambodia....sper sa nu par un ciudat.
Cel mai bine sa lasam imaginile sa vorbeasca.Sa pornim la drum
The Temples of Angkor
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Esti undeva in adancul junglei,mirosul din aer, chiar si pasarile o spun asta,esti intr-o alta lume undeva departe in timp.
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Fiecare piatra,fiecare templu are istoria sa cladita cu multe secole in urma.Angkor inseamna 'Capital City' sau 'Holy City'.Angkor a fost capitala imperiului Khmer intre sec. 9-12 si avea o populatie de peste un milion de locuitori,controland la acea vreme,militar,economoic ,cultural tot SE Asiei.
Constructia,arhitectura templelor ramane pana astazi o enigma,cei de la NASA sunt preocupati cu fotografii facute din spatiu si tot ei spun ca Bayon vazut de sus pare ceva straniu,infricosator...
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Wow ce peisaje, ce poze....... Intradevar ceva"diferit" fata de ce suntm noi obisnuiti sa vedem in vacante.
Excelente poze, excelenta locatie aleasa, daca mai ai, mai asteptam sa ne scaldam ochii.
Felicitari.
Este incredibil cum pot civilizatiile sa dea gres in asemenea hal. Bine, e drept... sunt ceva ramasite pe-acolo si in oamenii care traiesc in zilele noastre, insa nu la gloria care era pe vremea acestor constructii. Minunate pozele!!!
sory dar cam simplista interpretarea.
Te refereai la ce-am zis eu?
da. daca vrei continuam pe mesaj.
Siem Reap este un oras in prima dezvoltare iar din interior nu pare a avea o populatie de peste 140.000 de loc.Se construieste mult,forfota e din ce in ce mai mare in raport cu fluxul de turisti.Este asezat la 10 km de cel mai mare lac din SE Asiei,Tonle Sap.
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Chiar daca esti intr-un oras asta nu inseamna ca ai scapat de temple chiar daca sunt la alta scara, construite de o alta generatie.
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Acel magnet nevazut te atrage insa spre vechile temple iti incarci bateriile si te vezi pornit din nou la drum.
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Mai ai si surprize sa intalnesti chiar langa tine si alte fiinte
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Ultimele poze cu acei arbori sunt :wtf:
In ultima imagine se vede Apsara sau Vidhya Dhari, Tep Apsar la khmeri, Accharā la Vietnamezi,Apson la Thai,Bidadari Malaysia si indonesia,in mitologia hinduista si parte din cea buddhista jumate om jumate zeu spiritul norilor si al apelor.
English translations of the word "Apsara" include "nymph," "celestial nymph," and "celestial maiden."
Apsaras sunt tinere,frumoase si foarte elegante, iscusite in arta dansului
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Ta Phrom construit intre sec.XII-XIII de catre Jayavarman VII
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In jurul fiecarui templu forfota creste la intrare sunt o multime de bazaruri si vanzatori ambulanti.Stie cineva ce este un tuk-tuk?
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Este cea mai mare constructie religioasa existenta.Ea a devenit un simbol al Cambodgiei, apare pe drapelul national , si este prima atractie a tarii pentru turisti.Templele din Angkor, construite de civilizatia khmer intre 802 si 1220 d.Hr., reprezinta una dintre realizările omenirii,arhitecturale, cele mai uimitoare şi de durată.
De la Angkor, regii khmeri au domnit peste un domeniu vast, care a ajuns de la Vietnam la China, la Golful Bengal.
Angkor Wat, construit in primii ani ai secolului al 12-lea de către Suryavaram al II-lea,ca onoruri zeului hindus Vishnu si este o reprezentare simbolica a cosmologiei hinduse.
Folosind simulari pe calculator s-a demonstrat ca planul arhitectural al complexului Angkor,plasarea templului fata de marile temple principale oglindeste pozitia stelelor din constelatia Draco la momentul echinoctiului de primavara din anul 10.500 i.d.Chr.Toate aceste aliniamente astronomice sunt cu mult mai devreme fata de orice constructie din Angkor se pare insa ca scopul este de a reprezenta arhitectural armonizarea dintre cer si pamant.
Angkor a devenit un loc de pelerinaj de importanta in intreaga Asie de SE.Jefuit de Thais in 1431 si abandonat in 1432,Angkor a fost uitat pt. cateva secole.Calugarii buddhisti in pelerinajele lor prin jungla deasa au descoperit ocazional aceste temple recunoscand natura lor sacra insa spunand ca aceste temple au fost construite de catre zei.
Poarta spre Angkor Wat
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Incerc doar sa va injectez putina cultura...Apsara
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Siem Reap
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Splendid rasarit
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Banteay Srey(Srei)tradus ar veni "citadel of the women"la 38 km de Siem Reap este construit sub regele Rajendravarman si terminat in anul 968 de regele Jayavarman V.Categoric construit in arta Khmer,unul dintre cele mai frumoase si vizitate temple.Valabil pt. toate templele,variatia de culori la anumite ore.
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Iti multumesc ca impartasesti cu noi aceasta experienta.
Te rog, daca poti, sa ne spui si alte date despre calatorie: aspecte legate de costuri (transport, cazare, mancare, intrari la muzee...), vize, vaccinuri sau alte particularitati despre care ar trebui sa stim inainte de a pleca spre acele meleaguri.
Raspunsul la intrebari in finalul calatoriei...
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Roluos Group,sunt incluse trei temple Preah Ko(879),Bakong(881),Lolei(891),12 km de Siem Reap si sunt construite de catre regii Jayavarman II,Jayavarman III,Yasovarman I. Din grupa mai fac parte Prei Montí si Trapéang Phong care din pacate azi sunt doar ruine.
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Lasam in urma templele ne pregatim pt o alta etapa...
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O noua etapa cu destinatia Tonle Sap(khmer=marele lac).Cel mai mare lac din SE Asiei si unul din cele mai populate lacuri cu peste de pe glob.Lacul este format datorita mai multor fluvii care se revarsa in el iar in luna iunie se observa un fenomen mai putin obisnuit,Mekong-ul datorita ploilor abundente(monsun) si a topirii ghetarilor din Himalaya aduce o masa de apa de 4 ori mai mare ca si in sezonul uscat cand lacul se intinde pe o suprafatza de 2.600 – 3.000 km² iar acum atinge 10.400 km²,incluzand suprafatza indundata chiar 25.000 km².Lacul are o adancime de 2-3 m care creste pana la 14 m,punctul culminant il atinge in septembrie cand 1/3 din supraf. Cambodiei este sub apa.Daca lacul nu ar exista Cambodia ar fi aproape in totalitate sub apa.
Totul incepe sa prinda viatza odata cu adunarea masiva de apa,cand pulsul vietii e atins la maxim datorita bogatiilor in peste.
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Mian dtoek, mian trey - un proverb khmer,-unde este apa este si peste-anual se scoate peste 225.000 tone de peste.
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Dupa o scurta iesire pe Tonle Sap ne intoarcem din nou In Siem Reap.
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In drum spre Phnom Penh
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Primele imagini din Phnom Penh, capitala Cambodia cu o populatie de 2 mil. locuitori(dupa parerea mea mult mai multi),un oras in plina dezvoltare si ultra aglomerat.
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Royal Palace,palatul regal,adaposteste familia regala.
Norodom Sihanouk a fost regele Cambodiei pana in octombrie 2004 cand a abdicat din motive de sanatate iar azi este cunoscut sub titlul de king father.Nascut in 1922 fiul lui Norodom Suramarit si al reginei Sisowath Kossamak este trecut in cartea recordurilor Guinness ca fiind conducatorul cu cele mai multe functii in stat,incepand din 1941 a fost de doua ori rege,de doua ori print suveran,presedinte ,de doua ori prim ministru,o data conducator non-titled head of state,cat si alte functii pe perioada guvernului in exil.Dupa retragerea sa consiliul tronal regal a ales ca rege pe Norodom Sihamoni.
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Zona este acoperita de un adevarat complex de cladiri impartita in trei parti in partea nordica Silver Pagoda,sud-vest Khemarin Palace iar in partea centrala Throne Hall.Cea mai veche cladire dateaza din sec XIV.
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Muzeul national,ridicat in 1920 de regele Sisowath,include peste 5000 de obiecte.
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Wat Phnom,sub regele Ponhea Yat (1405-1467)care a mutat capitala khmerilor din Angkor in Phnom Penh
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Phnom Penh...
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Pulsul strazii...
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Nu am imagini de la Choeung Ek Memorial (The Killing Fields) si Toul Sleng Genocide Museum (S-21) din respect pt cei ucisi si torturatzi acolo,cred ca nimeni nu are dreptul sa le tulbure linistea.
Circulatia pare aiurea,de fapt si este, insa este mult mai fluida decat intr-o tara cu semafoare sofisticate,cum reusesc nu ma intrebati, stiu insa ca principalul e sa fi in miscare tot timpul.
Ne despartim de Phnom Penh cu destinatia Kep
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Hotaram ca acest pas spre Kep sa-l facem cu o masina privata si nu per bus sau minibus,in 5 min. problema e rezolvata contra sumei de 40 $,la ora si locul stabilit suntem preluati de masina cu aer conditionat destinatia Kep.As vrea sa fac o paranteza si anume despre usurinta si rapiditatea de a te deplasa,doar thais pare sa fie la acest nivel.
Lasam in urma capitala si ne indreptam spre Kep (Saddle of the Horse) sau Kep-sur-Mer in franceza,Krong Kaeb este o provincie in SW Cambodiei,pana in anii ´60 statiunea preferata a elitei franceze si cambodiene,mai tarziu distrusa de khmerii rosii insa pana in ziua de azi se mai vad urmele colonialismului francez.Un orasel de pescari asezat in Gulf of Thailand care incet incet incepe sa prinda din nou viatza.
Suntem la 172 km de Phnom Penh.
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Totul pare atat de simplu insa in acelasi timp generos,o portie de rechin(ultima imagine) in stil cambodian,care poate sa faca concurenta celor mai mari restaurante din diferite colturi de lume,sa nu mai vorbesc de pret care pare a fi calculat pt alta planeta.Portia din imagine costa nici mai mult nici mai putin de 5 (cinci) $
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Din nou, la o masa pescareasca
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Ne indreptam spre Koh Tonsay(Rabbit Island) o insulitza la numai cateva mile de Kep.Insula are 2 km² si totul este pastrat intact,natura este asa cum a fost, fara prea multa infrastructura doar cateva casutze de lemn.Superb!
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Resedinta noastra in Kep arata ca o mini gradina zoo-botanica.
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O mica plimbare prin acest mic Paradis
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In drum spre Sihanoukville
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Sihanoukville (khmer-Preah Sihanouk)este denumirea noua in cinstea regelui Norodom Sihanouk,asezat in Golful Siam.Denumirea veche este Kompong Som si alaturi de Kep au fost Coasta de azur a Cambodiei in timpul colonialismului francez.Orasul este destul de mare si este impartit in mai multe parti,Downtown,Ochheuteal und Serendipity Beach ,Weather Station Hill ,Victory Beaches.
La fel are mai multe plaje,Ocheteaul Beach ,Serendipity Beach ,Island Beaches ,Independence Beach ,Sokha Beach ,Otres Beach ,Victory Beach ,cea din urma mi s-a parut si cea mai curata si mai buna plaja restul fiind f.aglomarate si f.mici.Orasul este invadat de turisti iar restaurantele pe metru patrat pare sa detina un record.
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Snake House
Suntem pe teritoriul lui Nikolai un renumit reptilolog rus care e stabilit de ani buni in Cambodia si care detine printre altele Snake House un mic paradis,Airport Disco chiar pe plaja Victory beach si multe altele.
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In orice colt te-ai afla,ceva te atrage ca un magnet spre Siem Reap,simti nevoia de a vedea sau revedea acele temple minunate fiecare cu istoria lui aparte.
De data aceasta drumul ne duce spre un templu mai putin cunoscut de catre turisti,care desi nu pare impunator insa cu siguranta are ceva aparte,te simti in inima junglei,aerul are si el o nota distincta,totul pare simplu insa in acelasi timp straniu.
In urma cu cativa ani era imposibil sa ajungi aici din cauza minelor insa echipa germana (DU6)au curatat zona si deschis drumul spre BENG MEALEA.
Beng Mealea are o istorie necunoscuta si poate fi identificat doar dupa stilul arhitectural asemanator cu cel de la Angor Wat,binenteles ca marime insa mult mai mica si are World Heritage Status.
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Desi templul e mai mult ruina intrand in inima lui simti aerul acelor timpuri trecute o liniste interioara te apasa,ai impresia ca timpul sta in loc.
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Bayon...la o alta ora si o alta lumina.
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Sok Sabay, Ch'nam Tmey
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Calatoria se incheie cu zborul spre Frankfurt,un zbor cu multe peripetii, insa totul e bine cand se termina cu bine.
Super interesante locuri, super tare jurnal! Asteptam detaliile zborului inapoi. :D
La plecare din Siem Reap, pe aeroport la primul control am fost oprit,in bagajul de mana aveam doua "Angkor" beer primite ca ramas bun de la Frank (gazda noastra),tipa de acolo razand imi spune insa"Nu trebuie sa le aruncati,puteti sa le beti chiar aici!" Wow,am ramas surprins de acest gest,ma gandeam ce imi faceau nemtii cu democratia (lu peste) a lor,in fine am stat linistit le-am baut si am plecat mai departe.Dupa un scurt zbor am aterizat pe Suvarnabhumi(Bangkok) iar cam peste o ora aveam zborul spre Frankfurt,insa nu a fost chiar asa,chiar inainte de boarding suntem anuntati ca avionul are probleme la unul din motoare si trebuie reparat,dureaza cam o ora,insa a durat in jur de 4,timp in care am fost alimentati cu apa si racaoritoare.In sfarsit am luat directia Frankfurt,dupa 13 ore jumate de zbor aterizam insa aici apar alte probleme,zapada e f.mare,ningea inca iar avionul nu poate sa intre in terminalul lui,era o debandada sa zic asa,asteptam semnalul de decolare spre un alt aeroport mai degajat insa nu putem pleca asa de repede pana avionul nu e curat de zapada,totul a durat alte doua ore,in final ne ridicam din nou in aer,si atunci mi-am dat seama cu cata usurinta ridica pilotii un "777" in aer doar pt. cateva minute, insa cu multe "curbe".Aterizam din nou (Baden Baden) insa aici apare o alta problema,aeroportul nu este international deci nu coboara nimeni,asteptam unda verde spre un alt aeroport care trebuie neaparat sa fie international.Se ia in calcul varianta intoarceri inapoi in Frankfurt insa totul dureaza,dupa alte cateva ore capitanul anunta unda verde pt Frankfurt insa totodata isi aduce aminte ca avionul mai trebuie si alimentat,iar timp pierdut,insa na am plecat cu stangul,in final "777" se ridica din nou maret in aer,aterizam din nou cu bine de data asta exact unde trebuie.Rasuflam usurati cand suntem jos in gara din Frankfurt.
Quote from: Telvanni on December 16, 2012, 10:51:05 AM
Iti multumesc ca impartasesti cu noi aceasta experienta.
Te rog, daca poti, sa ne spui si alte date despre calatorie: aspecte legate de costuri (transport, cazare, mancare, intrari la muzee...), vize, vaccinuri sau alte particularitati despre care ar trebui sa stim inainte de a pleca spre acele meleaguri.
Asezata in SE Asiei in golful Thailandez,intre tarile Laos, Thailand si Vietnam in vest marele lac Tonle Sap iar in est unul din cel mai mari fluvii din lume, Mekong. Cunoscuta pentru ruinele sale celebre, Angkor, Preah Vihear, Banteay Srei, Roluos toate sub patrimoniul mondial UNESCO. Pana in 1953 colonie franceza,intre 1975-1979 sub dictatura khmerilor rosii. Tara a fost macinata de razboaie cel din urma fiind si cel mai sangeros.
Capitala Phnom Penh este si cel mai mare oras cu aprox. 2 mil. loc. urmat de Battambang, Siem Reap, Kompong Cham si Sihanoukville. Cea mai mare parte a populatiei (93%) sunt Buddhisti (Teravada-Buddhism), populatia majoritara in jur de 90% este cea khmer urmata de vietnamezi, cham si chinezi intr-o proportie foarte mica. Populatia tarii este in jur de 14 mil. locuitori.
Actual tara este in plina dezvoltare ramura de baza fiind turismul. Viza de intrare este de 20$ si se obtine direct la intrarea in tara sau E-Visa (online) 25$, pasaportul valabil cel putin inca 6 luni. Viza este valabila 30 de zile. La iesirea din tara se mai plateste o taxa de 25$.
Zboruri directe nu sunt,legaturile se pot face via Bangkok,Saigon,Kuala Lumpur,Singapore.Actual se pare ca Air France(Paris) a introdus o cursa directa spre Cambodia(neverificat)
Cazarea se face in hoteluri, guesthouse iar preturile incep de la 5$ (camera) mergand pana la cateva sute in hotelurile de lux. Moneda nationala este Riel (KHR) 1 euro ca. 5000 riel insa se poate plati in dollari sau baht (Thai). Un exemplu curios, intr-un restaurant meniul este in dollari plata se face in baht iar restul il primesti in riel. Se pot scoate bani de la ANZ sau Canadian Bank cu cartea de credit.
Inainte de plecare e bine sa ai vaccinurile la zi,in special cel pt. hepatita si tifos, chiar pt turbare insa cel mai bine este sa consulti un doctor de specialitate. Datorita climei moderate 26-30°C pe toata durata anului (perioada cea mai buna perioada este decembrie-martie) la fel trebuie sa ai un echipament adecvat,cat mai usor posibil din materiale speciale.
Ca turist limba de circulatie este engleza, limba oficiala este khmer, generatia mai in varsta mai vorbeste si franceza. Un avantaj impresionant este daca reusesti sa inveti cateva cuvinte in khmer.
Cambodia este in general o tara sigura insa este de evitat iesirile tarziu in noapte. Inamicul nr.1 sunt minele dupa un raport UN inca 6 miloane.In general zonele turistice sunt curatate de mine insa mai sunt locuri unde nu ai voie sa te abati din drum in special in zona de granita Preah Vihear.
Eu imi organizez singur aceste tururi,am nevoie de un bilet de avion si de un cartier general,restul decurge de la sine,binenteles un plan de bataie e facut in mare dinainte insa pot aparea devieri in orice moment.
Zboruri directe spre Cambodia inca nu exista,deci tre sa faci cel putin o escala,o deviere la unul din aeroporturile apropiate,in cazul meu am ales Bangkok(Suvarnabhumi) si Thai Air insa la fel de bine poti alege si Saigon sau stiu eu ce alte legaturi.
Binenteles poti alege si unul din pachetele oferite de agentiile de turism care costa insa mult mai mult ,unde ai un program stabilit insa nu prea poti sa te misti asa liber cum ai vrea tu.
E bine sa ai anumite vaccinuri la zi o anumita conditie fizica un echipament adecvat,apoi stiu ca pentru multi pare cumva curios cum poate functiona turismul intr-o asa o tara.Aici as putea spune multe insa ma limitez la cuvantul impecabil insa pe primul loc as situa Thailanda pe care am strabatut-o in lung si-n lat,vecinii lor insa nu vor sa se lase mai prejos si invatza inca multe de la ei cu succes as putea spune.
Multumesc pentru jurnal. L-am urmarit cu interes de cand ai inceput sa il postezi si, de fiecare data cand am vazut noi poze, am reusit prin intermediul pozelor tale sa ma deconectez pentru scurt timp de realitatea cotidiana. Cel mai mult apreciez ca ai ales sa mergi pe cont propriu, ceea ce se vede si din poze, ca sunt originale si mai aproape de realitatile locale, decat vizitele ghidate in locuri special amenajate pentru turisti. Asia de sud-est e fascinanta si desi eu n-am avut ocazia sa ajung in acea zona, ma bucur cand aud de romani care au ajuns. Ma bucur pentru ca prea multe generatii au fost izolate de lumea larga si de aceea tot ce inseamna redescoperirea lumii de catre noi romanii, este un plus pentru noi toti. Mersi inca o data si asteptam cu interes si alte jurnale. :)
Pe cont propriu iesi si mai ieftin ,nu trebuie sa fi cu ochii pe ceas, sa respecti un anumit program.In tot SE Asiei e simplu sa te deplaseszi de la A la B sunt f.bine organizati in toate directiile.
Pe vremuri am inceput cu Thailand apoi Laos,Vietnam si in final Cambodia.Pot derula si Vietnam, de la primele doua insa nu am imagini digitale.
Puteti pune orice fel de intrebari!
Felicitari pt jurnal!
Cate zile a durat toata ceasta aventura? si ce buget ai avut alocat pt ea?
Mi-a placut faca cu taxa de la plecare (vrei sa pleci de la noi ..platesti :d). Autoritatile de acolo cum se comporta cu turistii?
Eventual pe o scara de la 1 la 10 a pericolului unde ai incadra aceasta experienta inedita ?
Ms anticipat si felicitari ca ai reusit sa ajungi pe astfel de meleaguri si ne-ai impartasit si noua o parte din cultura cestei tari despre care sincer sa recunosc nu stiam mare lucru.
Aproape cinci saptamani,despre buget ce pot sa spun,depinde de pretentiile pe care le ai ,ma refer la cazare,mancare,cel mai scump insa ramane biletul de avion si de linia aeriana,bilet care e bine sa-l rezervi cu luni de zile inainte,eu l-am rezervat cu 11 luni inainte si a fost cam 1000 euro,acceptabil pot spune insa poate urca si peste 1500 euro,asta depinde de tine si de putin noroc.In rest preturile sunt cu mult sub cele europene,adica f.mici.Nu am avut un buget anume,poti scoate bani cu cartea de credit de la bancile internationale de acolo.Tin minte ca am scos 2000 $ iar aproape 900 au mai ramas,pe care acasa i-am preschimbat in euro,asta pt doua persoane,sa nu vorbesc de pietele de acolo unde poti cumpara de la ceasuri,t-shirts,etc la preturi de nimic.Sunt sigur ca o asemenea vacanta de acceasi durata in Franta sau chiar Romania depaseste cu mult acest buget.
International Airport Departure Tax se plateste si la iesirea din alte tari asiatice deci nu e ceva nou.
Inamicul nr.1 sunt minele,este indicat sa eviti locurile neumblate,apoi ar veni khmerii rosii care majoritatea sunt inca in libertate si mai detin inca armele si munitia din timpurile cand duceau acel razboi sangeros.Precizez ca nu am fost tinta niciunui incident chiar minor as putea spune desi m-am abatut de la unele reguli pe care e bine sa le respecti.
Tara e catalogata ca cea mai corupta din lume,nu stiu insa in ce sens folosesc unuii termenul de "corupt"aici as face o mica paranteza,un politist castiga 25-30$ pe luna,un profesor intre 40-60$,deci daca pe strada o sa vezi politisti care opresc masini,tuk-tuk-uri si incaseaza cativa reali de la acestia iti vei da seama ca e ceva normal.In schimb intr-o alta tara unde un politist castiga de zeci de ori mai mult iar cu salariul lunar poate sa-si intretina familia insa recurge la un asemena gest atunci cuvantul "corupt" poate fi folosit pe drept.
Tara practic traieste din turism,insa autoritatile nu prea isi bat capul,doar la sectorul incasat.In general esti binevenit,orasele mai expuse sunt Phnom Penh si Sihanoukville acesta din urma cunsocut ca si capitala drogurilor si a sex-ului.De evitat iesirile tarzii in noapte,in aceasta zona a Asiei ziua e egala cu noaptea adica jumi-juma 12 ore zi 12 noapte indiferent de sezon.
Inainte de plecare e bine sa studiezi putin despre locurile pe care urmeaza sa le vizitezi sa ai un ghid turistic la tine (ex.Lonely Planet Guide Books) sa citesti cat mai multe.Tot de acasa e bine sa-ti rezervi asa zisul"cartier general" prima ta gazda,daca se poate cu transferul de la aeroport inclusiv,in rest totul decurge de la sine,odata fiind acolo vei vedea usurinta cu ,care poti sa parcurgi etapele urmatoare.
Vizionare placuta!
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Quote from: Henning on December 10, 2012, 04:43:49 AM
O zi normala de iarna, de Decembrie ,aeroportul din Frankfurt pare destul de inchis la culoare sa nu vorbesc de labirintul de acolo si de incompetenta tot mai acuta a celor care lucreaza acolo(cu siguranta Leiharbeiter).Aeronava(Boeing 777)este gata de plecare destinatia Bangkok.
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Avionul acesta (de la Thai) e Boeing 747. Cu unul din acesta am trecut oceanul in SUA in august. :)
Quote from: Henning on December 10, 2012, 04:43:49 AM
Suntem doar in zona de tranzit si asteptam urmatorul zbor spre Siem Reap cu Bangkok Air
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Acesta in schimb e un Boeing 767. Daca te uiti mai bine scrie chiar pe motor.
Quote from: Betuel on January 25, 2014, 12:00:16 AM
Acesta in schimb e un Boeing 767. Daca te uiti mai bine scrie chiar pe motor.
Nici vorba sa fie Boeing 767 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767). Am zburat cu 767 si arata astfel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767).
Asta din poza cred ca e Boeing 717 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_717).
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Da asa e. Greseala mea.
Cand m-am uitat prima data pe net am vazut ca seamana cu 717 dar vazand ce scrie pe motor (cifra dintre cei doi 7 seamana mai repede cu 6 decat cu 1) am zis ca e 767. Acum, uitandu-ma la link-urile postate de tine, mi-am dat seama ca, in nici un caz nu poate fi 767. Diferenta dintre cele doua modele fiind foarte clara la pozitia motoarelor. La 767 sunt pozitionate sub aripi iar la 717, in spatele aripilor, intre aripi si coada.
Nu mai zic ca B767 e de vreo 3 ori mai mare decat B717 (ca nr. de locuri)...
Ciudat ca B717 nu apare in flotila lor http://www.bangkokair.com/pages/view/our-fleet (http://www.bangkokair.com/pages/view/our-fleet).
Eu am zburat prin 2010 din Bangkok in Koh Samui cu un ATR si la intoarcere cu A319.
Genial aeroportul din insula. Primul aeroport open-space si acoperit cu stuf pe care l-am vazut :)