Anul asta mi-am propus sa ajung in concediu in Italia. Mai exact undeva la sud de Napoli, in Vietri sul Mare. Plec din Bucuresti, pe 10 august.
Drumul pana acolo e lung si am mai multe alternative. Prin Ungaria si Slovenia imi da 22h30 min. Mai e si varianta prin Serbia si Croatia.
Nu voi face drumul dintr-o bucata ci la dus ma voi opri la Florenta (posibil chiar 2 nopti), plus inca o noapte undeva pe drum (ma gandeam la Arad).
La intoarcere o oprire o voi face la Rimini, una la Venetia si posibil inca una pe drum.
M-as intoarce prin Croatia si Serbia, dar acum 3 ani am patit-o...am stat 5 ore la vama dintre cele 2 tari. Daca a mai trecut cineva pe acolo anul trecut in august, sau anul acesta (pana acum) il rog sa-mi spuna daca mai sunt probleme acolo.
Deasemenea astept trips and tricks pentru acest drum. Promit sa vin cu poze :))
Ce as face eu:
Avionul pana in Napoli si dupa inchiriezi. Un Citroen C3 pentru 9 zile te costa 287E - manuala, date: 10 - 19.
Ideea e ca poti pune vizitatul orasului Napoli la final - 2 zile sa zicem si atunci inchiriatul devine doar 7 zile. Deci mai ieftin.
175E avionul pana in Napoli cu Blue Air (deci posibil si cost 1 bagaj de cala)
As face asa pentru ca din ce vad eu vrei sa vezi Italia.
Cu masina 2 zile (dus si intors) se fac in RO. Probabil H ai vazut-o (iar 1 zi dus - intors). Croatia ai vazut-o.
Nu iesi mai ieftin ca si costul de motorina al drumului RO - IT, dar castigi timp.
2. Eu am stat aici (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pensiunea+Rustic/@46.1406677,21.5320385,16z/data=!4m7!3m6!1s0x474585ccbebb56cd:0x56c266358437b857!5m1!1s2018-07-24!8m2!3d46.1406677!4d21.5348768) in zona Arad.
Eu as evita Serbia si Croatia din cauza de costuri de autostrada (probabil o sa te duca la vreo 40E doar tarile astea 2).
Maps recomanda oricum prin H - Slovenia.
Sau daca chiar vrei sa variezi - prin Croatia pe langa Zagreb si iesit tot prin H. Poate chiar ramai in Zagreb 1 noapte - daca nu l-ai vazut.
3. Plinul prin Slovenia, ca in Italia e la fel ca in Grecia: scump carburantul!
La inceputul lunii am facut si eu exact acelasi drum,eu fiind acum tot in zona Amalfi. Traseul meu a fost prin Ungaria si Slovenia,nu stiu ce sa-ti spun de traseul prin Serbia. In schimb pot sa te ajut cu niste sfaturi,ai grija la ce ora tranzitezi portiunea dintre Deva si Faget,este dezastru pe acolo asfaltul si traficul la fel,am pierdut in jur de doua ore pe portiunea aia,Valea Oltului e pistol cu apa pe langa ce este acolo si probabil in anumite perioade de timp e mai ok sa mergi pe la Savarsin. Avand in vedere perioada in care pleci iti recomand sa verifici online traficul de la vama,eu la dus n-am facut asta si am mai pierdut inca 30 de minute aiurea,cand puteam sa ies mult mai rapid pe la Turnu sau Nadlac 2. Si un sfat pentru intoarcere,dupa ce o sa vezi Florenta la dus,la intoarcere daca nu ai treaba in Florenta iti recomand sa mergi pe drumul expres Orte-Perugia-Cesena,drumul este bun,2 benzi pe sens,mai putina aglomeratie ca pe autostrada si te scuteste de 15-20 de euro taxele pentru autostrada. Drum bun! :D
Salut, inchiriatul a fost si prima mea optiune. M-am lasat pagubas cand mi-au zis ca nu-mi pot garanta un anumit motor. Numai eu stiu ce am patit cu un Astra 1.4 prin Creta. In plus, de vreo 2 ani m-am obisnuit cu automata. Chiar nu vreau un 1.0 TSI. Si vreau sa ma opresc si in Florenta si Venetia, iar condusul la mine nu e o problema, e o placere.
Oferta primita pt inchiriere a fost urmatoarea (ce vezi tu pe net sunt fara asigurare dar cu o garantie de peste 1000 de E, si cu niste conditii incredibile):
Quote- Grupa CLMR – VW Golf, VW T-Roc sau similar – auto cu motorizare benzina/diesel (in functie de disponibilitatea momentului) si transmisie manuala. – tarif : € 655,87 / 8 zile de inchiriere, km nelimitati, sofer aditional, taxa de aeroport, asigurari contra accident/furt cu participare 0 din partea clientului. (nu include geamuri si anvelope) – ITESP000
Tarifele sunt valabile pentru ambele perioade, fiind tot 8 zile.
Pentru rezervari autoturisme cu transmisie automata, putem merge pe cea mai mica grupa de premium, incepand cu grupa IDAR – Citroen DS5 sau similar, insa tarifele incep de la € 757,47
De mentionat ca tipul carburantului nu il putem confirma noi, autoturismele puse la dispozitie pentru rezervari fiind alocate de statie direct.
1. 1.0 TSI - 110 CP de la VW, eu il recomand. Trage bine de tot. Testat de mine acum 1 luna pe 1000km toate formele de teren.
Depinde cu ce il compari.
Fata de 2.0 - 140cp, e putin mai jos la plecari, dar nu cu mult.
2. Cele mai ieftine masini de inchiriat in Italia sunt la Roma si Milano. Plus ca bilet mai ieftin.
Spre Roma - 115 E - 10 - 19 aug, fata de 175 spre Napoli - deci 60E*2 - 120E economie.
3. Intradevar pretul dat de mine este fara asigurare casco ... de nici un fel. Eu am inchiriat de 2 ori fara casco si totul a fost ok. Adevarat ca nu stii cand shiet-strikes.
4. Cu puterea e: cu cat e mai mare clasa cu atat mai multi CP.
Depinde in Roma ai o Giulietta - 310E - 9 zile, care are minim 120 cp.
5. Ca regula generala: cauti pe rentalcars masina, vezi firma dupa care intrii pe site-ul firmei si inchiriezi direct. Faci economii de vreo 20 - 30 euro cel putin (in functie de numarul de zile e asta).
Legat de taxele de drum:
In Italia din cate stiu avem statii de taxare, dar exista si vreo varianta de platit online (gen portofel electronic) ca sa nu stau prea mult la portile de taxare?
Iar in Slovenia cred ca e cu vigneta ca la noi. De unde o pot lua si cum e mai bine (o sa trec de 2 ori prin Slovenia, fara sa opresc, la o diferenta de 9 zile).
Despre vigneta Slovenia gasesti aici (https://www.dars.si/Vignette_system/About_the_vignette) sau aici (https://www.slovenia.info/en/plan-your-trip/getting-to-and-around-slovenia/to-slovenia-by-car)
Pe scurt (pentru autoturisme):
One-year vignette 110,00 EUR
1-month vignette 30,00 EUR
1-week vignette 15,00 EUR
Si se ia din benzinarii (le gasesti in link-ul de sus).
Poti sa o iei pe cea de 30 de zile, ca oricum va trebui, altfel, sa iei doua de cate o saptama si costul e, in final acelasi, dar nu-ti bati capul si la intoarcere si nici nu umpli parbrizul de etichete. :D
Ms. Asadar din Ungaria, de la benzinariile Mol.
30 de euro oricum nu se compara cu cei 200+ pe care o sa-i las in Italia.
^Recomandarea mea este sa nu faci drumul asta cu mașina din RO. Eu m-am încăpățânat vreo câțiva ani la rând sa plec in August spre Italia si am fost pe ambele variante, Serbia si Ungaria. Am optat pentru escale la Zagreb sau Ljubljana, merita vizitate. Ideea este ca o sa te rupă drumul si traficul infernal iar pe Serbia sigur o sa pierzi ore prin vămi. Recomand avionul pana oriunde iti este bine pentru ce ți-ai propus sa vizitezi in Italia si de acolo mașina închiriată. Chiar nu are rost sa pierzi 4 zile pe drum in condițiile de trafic din August. Crede-ma va fi groaznic. Sa ai o vacanța frumoasa, orice variante alegi.
Varianta avion+masina inchiriata a cazut complet din momentul in care am hotarat sa oprim 2 nopti in Firenze si una la intoarcere in RImini. Astea 3 sunt punctele fixe. Nu vreau doar sa ajung la Napoli, vreau sa fac un circuit pana acolo.
Daca zici ca dai 200+ pe autostrazi doar, atunci nu ma mai plang ca am dat 17E la Greci (asta pentru ca am primit fault de la Waza si Google: ei ziceau ca nu platesc A, bariera zicea altceva!).
In toate aceste tari este valabila regula de viteza legala + 10km pt amenda? Sau trebuie sa am grija sa nu depasesc nici macar cu 1 km?
Deasemenea, peste tot e 0.00 la alcool, sau se accepta si la ei o bere bauta cu 2-3 ore inainte ?
Nu se aplică regula de la noi, +1 = amendă. Dar i eroarea de 5 km/h de la bord.
eu am eroare de 2-3 km doar. Masurata cu GPS.
Multumesc pentru informatii. In Slovenia e la fel? Dar in Ungaria?
Cu alcoolul cum stam? NU am de gand sa beau inainte de a ma urca la volan, dar presimt ca noptilor vor fi albe :D
In Italia m-am mai urcat prin Uber si soferii emanau halena, presupun ca e ca in Germania. Cu viteza nu m-am putut abera din cauza de aglomeratii pe A.
In Ungaria, pe A stiu toate camerele la viteza ofera o toleranta de 20 km/h, dar grija mare daca vorbesti cu telefonul la ureche sau citesti mesaje, ca te detecteaza camerele automat. La fel si pentru nepurtarea centurii de siguranta (inclusiv a aluia din dreapta).
Pana in Italia, poti sa folosesti statia cu incredere, e plin de camioane din RO.
Gasesti info aici (http://www.vacantacumasina.ro/limitele-de-alcoolemie-la-volan-in-tarile-europene/)
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Multumesc. Foarte buna ....sticla.
12 zile....4830 de km parcursi. O janta zgariata si un cauciuc taiat putin (fara pana, rezolvat cu un petic).
Am plecat pe 10 August pe la ora 15:00 din Bucuresti. A fost Horror. De la Ion Iriceanu (berceni) , m-a scos prin Jilava, Magurele, Domnesti si Bolintin pe A1. Un A1 extrem de aglomerat pe sensul spre Pitesti (desi ma asteptam sa fie invers).
Apoi, la Bascov era coada incepea cu peste 1 km inainte de sensul giratoriu . Asa ca am iesit pe Budeasa - Curtea de Arges- Rm Valcea. Eu si multi altii. La Talmaciu iar blocaj. Am stat 15 minute sa trec de giratoriu. Dupa s-a facut noapte si am putut sa merg mai bine. Pana la Vama, unde era totul blocat (desi era trecut de 12 noaptea) asa ca waze-ul m-a bagat pe Vama de pe DN (unde am stat vreo 15 min).
Cum iesi din Romania... alta viata. Nu-ti mai da nimeni flashuri si toti se dau pe prima banda. Se lucreaza la A spre Budapesta, asa ca te deviaza pe sensul opus (delimitat doar de niste stopuri). Pe M70, pana la granita slovena, e doar Half Profile. Oricum se circula bine.
Cateva poze de pe drum (iesirea din Ungaria si intrarea in Italia....Slovenia am sarit-o la pozat)
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Tunelul din Dreapta e pt A1 VAR - o autostrada paralela cu actuala. Pe o bucata buna am mers deja: numai vviaducte si tunele cu 2,5 -3-3,5 benzi pe sens.
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Vietri Sul Mare
Consolidarea unui versant (pe care sunt facute casele) si 2 vapoare intrand in portul Salerno
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Au ceva cu ceramica pictata in culori vii. Majoritatea caselor sunt impodibite cu asa ceva, atat la exterior cat si la interior
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Amalfi - Desi este la doar 20 de km de Vietri, drumul dureaza si o ora: este foarte ingust, numai curbe si extrem de aglomerat. Iar Maiori si Minori sunt un fel de Eforie (doar ca trafic): seara poti pierde timp bun acolo.
La intrare in Amalfi exista o parcare sapata in munte. Pe mai multe nivele. Din parcare au facut un tunel pe unde pietonii ajung direct in oras (pe partea cealalta a muntelui).
Tunelul este destul de lat incat pot sa treaca si masini pe acolo (dar nu am vazut)
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Pompei 2
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Pompei 3
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Pompei 4
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Sorento
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Drumul intre Vietri si Rimini... Aici am mers si pe DN-uri. Mai aglomerate pe la noi (desi eram prin munti), destul de prost intretinute (ar lua maxim galben la noi) dar foarte late, ocolesc localitatile, au intersectii denivelate cu alte drumuri principale (unde uneori apar 2 benzi pentru bacati scurte) si viaducte si tunele care ii confera o geometrie prietenoasa.
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Ultima poza este dintr-un spatii de servicii de pe autostrada....extrem de aglomerat spatiul si ambuteiaj aproape complet pe autostrada. - Toaleta din benzinarie era goala, cea din supermarket era full
Rimini - plaja imensa, apa mica si totul foarte curat (era unul care toata ziua strangea gunoaiele din nisip, si dupa cum se vede, plaja fusese curatata si noaptea)
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San Marino
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Cand am plecat din San Marino, Waze-ul mi-a dat prima teapa...In loc sa mearga pe drumul principal, a gasit el o varianta mai scurta.
O sa pun filmarea sa vedeti cat de "confortabil" a fost. Nu era chiar prapastie, dar erau cativa metri buni pana jos (estimez intre 5 si 10 in majoritatea locurilor)
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drumul spre Venetia.. aici am mers doar pe DN si am traversat delta Padului.. o zona agricola si puternic antropizata (parcul natural este doar pe o portiune mica a deltei, nu ca la Dunare).
De remarcat ca DN-urile lor au intersectiile principale denivelate si chiar noduri in toata regula (cu cate 2 benzi si banda de incadrare) .
Insa (valabil si pt autostrazile dinspre sud) italienii nu au auzit de planeitate si rugozitate. Asfaltul este destul de prost. Daca ar fi avut inghet ca la noi, nu ar fi rezistat peste iarna (asa crapaturile o duc lejer cativa ani).
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Laguna Venetiana
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In a 3-a poza de mai sus se vede drumul principal..doar ca waze-ul mi-a mai dat o teapa. A gasit el un drum mai rapid cu 7 minute, drum care a inceput pornea dintr-un nod mare si era foarte lat, dar dupa vreo 6 km s-a ingustat din senin astfel ca a ajuns undeva la el mult 6 m latime (fara marcaj median) si fara parapete.
Drumul era foarte circulat in ambele sensuri, se mergea tare pe el (70) si era cocotat pe un dig de vreo 7m...in stanga era un fluviu (Brenta) iar in dreapta laguna. Ultimii 500m aveau doar 4m latime, dar nu mai era circulat (am iesit dupa drumul principal de 6m) .
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Ultimele 2 poze sunt din autobuzul care merge in Venetia si le-am facut pentru ca mi s-a parut interesanta linia de tramvai.
Venetia
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Italia si Slovenia
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Croatia
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